The Keri Croft Show
The Keri Croft Show
SZN 4. EP-1. Kimmy & Sami return! We talk Eyelids, Feet, Leadership, Butterfly Guild and MORE!
Ever wonder how to tackle the day-to-day chaos of life while juggling career growth and family dynamics? Join me as I welcome back the vibrant duo, Kimmy and Sami, who bring their unique blend of corporate success and entrepreneurial spirit to the table for a juicy chat on how to navigate life, their way.
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Speaker 3:Oh, cool, Perfect, because I waved my hair.
Speaker 2:Guys you look way too hot for those podcast headphones ladies. Kimmy sammy, it's on welcome to the kerry croft show. Welcome, I mean I just let's just bask in the glory of having you two here. I'm excited, me too. It was my it's been. It's been too long. I know you're like, you're like, hey, by the way, let's, uh, let's do this thing, let's, let's do an ask. Ask sammy and kimmy, I'm like that sounds like a plan.
Speaker 4:I just wanted to spend more time with both of you, so I figured it was a good excuse.
Speaker 3:I think it's a great excuse, so give me a each of you give me kind of a little.
Speaker 2:You know, how was thanksgiving, how's the holiday, what's happening in your life?
Speaker 3:thanksgiving was great. We we actually celebrated on Friday with just the different movement in the family. We go to Doug's parents. We had some friends in from out of town One of a soccer buddy of Doug's, roger and his wife, lo Lo, still plays professional women's soccer. She should be on your podcast Really, just throwing that out there, because she's an incredible human being and that's it. You know, we went to the Michigan game, punched me in the face, so did I.
Speaker 2:We had a little exchange.
Speaker 3:That was tough. I almost lost a toe for that, and that was just about the weekend. I mean, we're getting into December. Now it's Christmas shopping time.
Speaker 2:I have not done that. So yeah, that's exciting. The Ohio State game. Just for a moment. I mean, I went from like on a high watching the guys go through the top you know, all this stuff to like where am I? Yeah?
Speaker 3:what was that? I don't know, I don't know. I don't want to speculate on job security for certain people, but it's tough, it's tough.
Speaker 3:I feel bad for the guys, I feel bad for the people on the team. I feel bad that an entire class has gone through and lost to Michigan every year, and it's you know. It's hard, I think, for the coaches, because if you don't beat Michigan, nobody cares about anything. You could have cured cancer and donated a thousand toys to a million children, but you didn't beat Michigan. Nobody cares about anything. You could have cured cancer and donated a thousand toys to a million children, but you didn't beat Michigan. So you suck, yeah, um, so I just I feel bad for the team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause there is something a little bit off about that too, you know. I mean you want to beat them. It's very important. I get that but it's like is the whole season, you know you guys keep looking at me like I can contribute the whole season, you know, you guys keep looking at
Speaker 3:me like I could contribute.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know football.
Speaker 4:That is amazing, you're being really considerate to make eye contact.
Speaker 2:You're like uh, I watched it on reels and realized we were playing that day what if she just kicked off her shoes and put her feet on the table?
Speaker 4:oh, yes, listen, I know where my value is. It's not this part of the conversation. So what about you, sammy? I'm an excellent online shopper. Just totally smooth through all of Christmas shopping Plus, you know, shopping has never been a problem for me, you're done with your Christmas shopping. Yeah, Wow. No, I mean it's not a good thing. No, I think it probably is a good thing. I think it is a good thing.
Speaker 3:I would love to be done with christmas, that's preparation for sure.
Speaker 2:I think it is a good thing because that is getting ahead of the game and not being last minute and then being able to do it.
Speaker 2:I'm a huge fan of that wow thanks yeah, so here's what I love about this I love a lot of things about this little pairing, but the two of you have some similarities in terms of like being about town and like everyone knows you and everybody loves you, and you have like the corporate baller aspect and you have, like the entrepreneur, built your business aspect. So there's like it's the same and different. So I think it's a very well-rounded conversation and so, um, lots of people have a lot of questions. I mean, I felt I felt like a little surprised at how many questions. I mean, the first one is, like how are you so gorgeous? Okay, well, genetics, obviously partially, but let's do, let's, let's delve in a little bit to what do you do every single day? Like, is there something you can't live without every single day? What, like, if you had to give someone like okay, I've got these top three things in my back pocket that I do that, I think, make a difference to make me like a fucking dime piece what would you give to the people?
Speaker 3:Wow. Well, I don't always wash my face before bed, so that's a toxic trait, probably. Dr Batna is in my pocket. He is a national treasure. I would protect him at all costs. He's in Dublin, ohio, 10 out of 10 recommend. He has been caring for my face for over a decade. I do all the things Like what things? I do the Botox? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do the filler. The incredible thing about Dr Babna which I hope he never hears this because I want him to give me what I want is if I ask for something, he'll tell me now Yep, and that's his thing too. If you walk into an office and everybody there is really plump and full and tight, it's probably how the surgeon injects and he just doesn't do that. I don't want to look like a fuller, plumper me. I just want to look like me when I was 25, until I die.
Speaker 2:No, I feel you on that, I feel you on that. Anything else outside of skincare I color my own hair.
Speaker 3:Do you, I do and I? I've been very lucky. I Do you, I do, and I've been very lucky I have not had to. Ford gave me grays, so this is a recent occurrence, so I have not had. This is my first year coloring my hair. I used to get like a biolage vibe, but now I gave that up because I just don't have. I can't sit still long enough for someone to do that. So I explored, I researched all the best out of the box online at home hair coloring, and that's what I do. I just really screw up the shower. I just make a mess.
Speaker 2:I need to, so you're saving a ton of money with that, because I mean a hair situation these days is crazy how much it costs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't. I, I just that's never been my thing. I don't do nails. I don't spend time getting my nails done. I don't spend time getting my hair. I mean, granted, mia cuts my hair, so okay, I do invest in that and I mean that's like a life-altering moment, but I, I just have never been a big hair color nails, I don't know. I just putting all the money in my face, I guess, which is probably very strategic. Thank you, what about?
Speaker 4:you um, I'm never pale. If I am, something's wrong. So that's one thing I feel like if you can't tone it, you tan it, you know. So I'm at the bronzing part every single week. Um got my new eyelids everybody knows about them.
Speaker 2:Let's, let's go in, let's go into the cornerstone of my personality.
Speaker 3:But I this is what I love about sam I mean, there's many things I love about you is that you're an open book. Oh yeah, I'm not hiding anything. Yeah, some people, I didn't get anything done, but you're like, let's talk about it.
Speaker 4:No, it is true. On instagram like yeah, well, you did yeah, did you get the?
Speaker 2:did you get Liz for free?
Speaker 4:No, I got nothing for free. I asked him for a referral code and he didn't even give me a referral code. He thought I was joking. Stop it. Oh, you went to Dr.
Speaker 3:Straka. Yeah, I feel like he's the guy for that.
Speaker 2:He's, everybody goes to him, really look great, but I think it's more. You know, we all have things about ourselves that we dial in on that other people would never even notice. Yeah so, but for you, you're like, oh my god, this is like the best thing I could have done well, tina was like you, finally look awake.
Speaker 4:And since I have two toddlers, I did like surgically open my eyes just to look awake again.
Speaker 2:So you have like the hooded, the hooded little thing going on like that. Yeah, okay, so you would have paid three times what you paid because you're that happy with it don't tell him that, though, because well, it's too late now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what was the recovery? Time five days easy. I have, literally. I put video of the whole every single day. I don't, I couldn't care less no, I think that's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's helpful for other people too so that was a good big one.
Speaker 4:Um Also, now everyone says it's gateway plastic surgery because you like, it's so easy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I can see that. I think that's cool. I've not done ever filler, I just like the one thing God did me a favor on was my lips, so I never really had to go down that alley. So I don't know. I bet when I'm 55, I'll get something else lifted and tucked.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And then otherwise, I don't know I take baths a lot. I feel like that actually makes a really big difference for me, even with inflammation in my face and everything do you do?
Speaker 1:salt baths, yeah, yeah, at night yeah, almost every night.
Speaker 4:That has made a really big difference even just like the way I carry inflammation. My face feels like it's not as swollen as it used to be okay, all right, ladies, okay, so here's.
Speaker 2:Here's a question that we know is not necessarily true, but I think the perception of the two of you we all have our, our personas, right, that we that we put off into the world, whether consciously or subconsciously, um, so it leads to this question with both of you. Do either of you have a negative feeling? Slash emotion ever? And why? How? Not? Like lol, which they're asking this in jest, kind of, but like they're not asking me that you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying so I do think that it could come across like oh my gosh, you guys just are floating through life, right, but we do that to everybody, yeah, so let's talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, um negative and what like. Just, are you ever?
Speaker 2:down. Are you ever low, depressed, are you anxious? I think they just want to get under the hood of like when's the last time you cried? Or when? When are you feeling, you know? Maybe an example of like when you were struggling recently.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I cry every single day. Um, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for sad reasons. My default is always I get sad. I very rarely get mad. So, like I get blue before I get red, it's very rare for me to get angry. It's kind of fun actually when I do, cause then I don't want to hit something You're like. It feels way cooler Because, honestly, most of the time I just get really sad. So, love a good cry, very therapeutic, very cathartic. Love acupuncture I would die without it. Those are, I would say, like my biggest things. Of course, I go to therapy right now pretty much for maintenance. When I've been like heavier periods in my life I was going for healing, for healing, but, um, now I see it, it's just like a check-in, which is a blessing.
Speaker 3:Um, those are, I would say, my big things, though I rage before I can say you're red, before you're blue. I go from zero to 100 real quick. But I think I mean I got a tattoo. Lisa suarez did a tattoo on my wrist of an hourglass recently, in the last, last year, just because I'm trying to remind myself that time goes by so fast, especially with the kids, and I find I find myself getting most frustrated when I'm trying to multitask, like if I'm trying to, I'm like I just need to send this fucking email. Stop asking me first, you know, but I have to. I audibly have to tell myself it is not his fault that he wants a snack, it is his fault that I'm also trying to do this. So, yes, I rage all the time, but I try to give myself a little bit of perspective as to what's going on.
Speaker 3:Um, I have a really stressful job that stresses me out. Much like Sam, I think I try to do all the things. I often overextend myself, which leads me to be stressed and anxious, but that is my own doing right, because I want to do all the things. And then I think the holidays are sad sometimes for people They've lost parents or, you know, you miss certain things. So, yes, I cry, I rage, I do all the things, but I am, I do think I have a healthy perspective of all of it. So I am able to try to find at least a little bit of a silver lining even on, you know, a dark day.
Speaker 2:Well, this question is kind of an extension of this. It's like how do you balance it all? And then the second question was how are you so cool?
Speaker 2:So it's like you know how you know, I think people again are looking at the just the multifaceted lives and how you're able to sort of go from one compartment to the next, to the next and kind of have this harmony right. And I, I think we all know what you see from 10 000 feet and what you see up close are very different, but there is a really cool balance that I think women too, especially, can do. We can just multitask the fuck out of things yeah, you know so.
Speaker 2:So how would you say, like, how do you balance it all? Like if you feel, kimmy, where you're like, oh my god, like I've had this week, that's literally, from a work perspective, gonna break me. I've got four social things that I've signed myself up for and I refuse to not go to one of them. The kids are like how do you, in general, balance it all? I don't right, I mean balance no, I'm kidding but the word balance right.
Speaker 2:Are we really balancing it? Are we just kind of like doing our best to like, yeah, juggle it?
Speaker 4:I think definitely. For me it's a perspective shift. I could definitely do a lot less. To your point, my husband encourages me to do a lot less, but but it's just not my nature. It's never been my nature. I love doing a million things. I love seeing a million people in a day, like I think it's so much fun. I really do try to remind myself I don't have to do these things. I get to do these things and that I'm a product of my choices, not circumstances. So like I am the one that committed to doing 10 things in one day, I day. I think it's just always been who I've been, I mean my whole life, so I do a lot of things, god, we're so similar.
Speaker 1:No, I know I was at Butcher Shop at 930,.
Speaker 4:Took a horse bath in their bathroom. I had Mona tell me what outfit to wear. Jake touched up my hair and here I am, like I just, I don't know I get changed in the car a lot I have you know, eaten the car a lot.
Speaker 4:I'm sure, like people who are really well grounded and rooted would like look at my life and be like you are a bundle of chaos and there are things that have to fall to the wayside. Like, if you look at my car right now, it's not clean. I have two toddlers, but if you need toys, I've got loads of them and some like leftover waffles from a couple days ago, for sure in the backseat. And then we had to make choices too, like I really wanted to work more and when you have two kids and you have a husband and all these things, like you also have responsibilities at home, so I'm like I would rather work more and pay to have cleaners come and we have a laundry service now that we use, which is actually really reasonable.
Speaker 4:Just again, I think what I appreciate about both of you and the people in my life the most are the people that are willing to be honest. People are really weird about transparency whether that's marital transparency financial transparency, even talking about how much they make.
Speaker 4:Like people are weird about money, just. And then you don't know, like am I being paid fairly? Am I, should I ask for more? Am I should I have more? Great, like more gratitude for what I am getting paid for. Like having open, honest conversations to me is the most supportive thing we can do. Same as the earlier question like do you ever feel down? If you do, you know what do you do? That helps. If we didn't say these things, if we don't normalize it and like share our stories, we can't learn from each other, help each other. I don't know. So we have a laundry service that's really inexpensive. It's like a hundred dollars every two weeks. They literally pick up our clothes on thursday, they bring them back on friday. It was such a point of contention for my husband and I hate laundry yeah, well, that's it.
Speaker 4:It takes so much time and it takes like I'm great at putting it in the washer and the dryer and then letting it sit in a basket for like a week and a half, or just pulling the clothes out of the basket but like actually folding it, sorting it, putting away it. It was night and day and it's like such a silly change but just making those kinds of choices too and being like all right, so, so I'll work a couple extra hours a week, pay for these services and then call it a day.
Speaker 4:Keep my sanity yeah yeah, and like spend my time doing the things that I love. Just read this book the other day and it was saying you read books too.
Speaker 3:I love books. Damn you, oh Jesus.
Speaker 4:No, no, you guys, it's not good books. They're smut books and you gotta be really careful if you read them.
Speaker 3:it's not good all the time smut books. What are you? What are you careful? What's happening? Why, sammy?
Speaker 2:to get you all like fired up and like there weren't like bad times of the day. You're like, hey, baby, come home and come home to mama. That was a warning. Is this like 50 shades of gray?
Speaker 4:wow, I forgot that we're being recorded. I was caught up with you being with my friends anything you say can and will be used against you everybody has 24 hours in a day.
Speaker 4:I'm so tired of hearing about work-life balance. Every single person. You have the same amount of days, same amount of hours. As a girl next to you, you got to fill it with things that you love, like period, the end we all have the same amount of days, same amount of hours. As a girl next to you, you got to fill it with things that you love, like period, the end we all have the same amount of time. How are you feeling your day so?
Speaker 2:let's go back to the smut. When you say, when you say, be careful with the smut, like what I mean. So that just gets you really off track. Do you call your husband home for like a nooner, like what happens?
Speaker 3:or he just she's doing. That's what she meant that's what you meant.
Speaker 2:Now we're. Now, we're all a flutter. Now we're all a flutter. I'm dead.
Speaker 3:We're all sweating Now my palms are sweating.
Speaker 2:Any advice in terms of the current political climate.
Speaker 3:Oh, I played the fifth.
Speaker 4:I listened to the Toast. It's a podcast and they have a lot of good non-political topics that you can chat with people about.
Speaker 3:Why is this so hard? If you're sitting down, don't talk about politics, don't talk about religion, don't ask somebody how much they like, just don't do it. I don't understand why people feel so inclined. I don't want to hear everybody's political views on everything, so don't just don't don't.
Speaker 2:People don't do it. I know some people have to.
Speaker 3:It's like just keep it all down here. Just don't talk about it at. Just have a nice holiday, just be thankful for what you have. Grandma nancy doesn't want to hear about your flag in your front yard, just stop yeah there you go question answered there you have it.
Speaker 2:First she pled the fifth and then she went in just don't do it. Then she raged, then she raged. I have nothing to say, but here we are I went right to red.
Speaker 4:Actually, guys, I I didn't, I was kind of nervous crying and I went to red I went to a medium the day before thanksgiving because I was like, okay, then I can at least talk about that yeah, instead of you know. So maybe just do some weird shit before the holidays and then you can talk about those experiences instead of just bring a smut book to the table yeah, right, he's gonna die with me now
Speaker 2:no, I actually respect you even more. I'm like oh, I need to know what these books are. Can you send me?
Speaker 3:a screenshot later.
Speaker 2:This is gonna trigger the foot person oh, this foot person's already the airtime they're getting.
Speaker 3:They're like, yeah, I'm gonna get some dms from the foot guy.
Speaker 2:This is gonna trigger the foot person. I really did. What did I? I did take a screen. You guys took a screenshot of that, right?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, so hold on just a second I didn't, but uh I you give me 10 minutes uninterrupted. I could find anybody on the internet. I am such a good sleuth on the interwebs, it's actually incredible.
Speaker 1:I should put it on my.
Speaker 3:LinkedIn. I don't know, Just you know curiosity. No, I see I'm also from the olden days.
Speaker 4:Shut up, you've been married for how many years? Eight? How did I not take a screenshot? Yeah, I mean just because you met your husband in the wild I did meet him in the wild okay, next question what is your stance on alcohol? Love it.
Speaker 3:I don't drink so yeah, but you, you were so similar, but so different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you took like when did you?
Speaker 4:stop drinking. Oh, maybe like 10 years ago. I mean, I'll still drink like a sip or something. I'm not like staunch sobriety, but I'm just so fucking cool on my own, you're flexible. You know, yeah, could you imagine me being weirder than this?
Speaker 3:We don't need that. Honestly, I would I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:Can you pull? Up for that next question ladies, any marriage advice for newlyweds, now that you're seasoned old hags?
Speaker 3:how long have you been married now? Four years, oh yeah, or eight. I mean be a better communicator than I am. I'm not a very good communicator, I could do better. I think that's really important. That's like one of Doug's things. I'm not a very good communicator, I could do better. I think that that's really important. That's like one of Doug's things. I could be a better communicator.
Speaker 3:So I think that that's always important and making time, especially if you're, you know, super busy, that has to be the priority.
Speaker 3:I mean, you asked before how we can do all the things. I could do all the things because of Doug, because he, if I teach early right, if I find being charitable, sam and I are both members of BG, I have monthly meetings. I mean I could do all the things because of Doug and I need to be very cognizant of making him a priority, right, because if I didn't have him, I wouldn't have the kids and I wouldn't have the kids and I wouldn't have a lot of the things that I have now. So I think, being communicative and being intentional with time, we used to be really good about dates and this was, you know, when it was just us two or it was just Georgia. We used to be very intentional on making dates for just us. I think we could do a little better getting back to that, because that's just the nucleus of everything and you have to take care of, like the home front and being communicative there and making time and making them a priority.
Speaker 3:And, um, I mean, I can't say enough good things about doug he's the best, yeah yeah, he is him, and actually him and russ are in love, so it is true we might end up together after all, yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 2:No, but that sounds familiar, like when you were saying all that I'm like oh my god. That sounds so familiar because you think you have so many things rolling through your brain. And, as women, I think we are very or at least the three of us very self-starting and proactive and we make decisions, we decide, we want to do something and we create calendars and, like you, think you've communicated like you fit and you're like you just expect this person, yeah, and so like with brady too, like he does every I mean he does so much, yeah, house and with the kids, like it's it.
Speaker 2:And it's the same kind of thing where you're like, okay, step back, make sure you're communicating yeah, effectively making this core a priority, and keep your like like they hold your string or something down oh gosh, yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 3:I mean I couldn't do half the things if and Doug's just also the best dad ever. And when I see red, doug isn't seeing red. So, it's a good. It's a good balance because I definitely can go more to the emotional side, where Doug is more of the balanced, yeah.
Speaker 2:Even keel, yeah. What about you? I mean, you've been married four years, I know.
Speaker 4:Wait, how long have you guys been married 19.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 4:We just had our 19th anniversary. Wow, I want advice first. Somebody just told me oh yeah, the seven-year itch.
Speaker 2:Seven-year itch Did this happen.
Speaker 3:Wait, have I been married for seven years or eight?
Speaker 4:years. Oh, I'm sorry if I just brought up the itch by accident.
Speaker 2:I think it was seven oh no, I don't think there was like a seven year itch. I mean, I think everybody's lives and marriages kind of evolved differently and especially if, like, certain circumstances in your life happen that cause stress on your marriage or um, but I I don't remember having any like like on year seven.
Speaker 3:It was such a weird comment somebody made and I was like I think that's a movie from the 50s also, maybe I don't know if that was I've heard it a lot like the seven-year itch is like a thing, yeah, yeah okay, um, so for us four years into it, you know, um, I think our biggest thing was when we had kids.
Speaker 4:Obviously we got pregnant really quickly after we got married, so we really weren't like married for long. We didn't even know each other that long. We were dating for a year we got engaged, we got married six months later and then so we were together 18 months and we were pregnant you know like, yeah, I know you guys had like a tight timeline we were.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean we met, got married and had a kid in like five minutes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I think one thing that I like learned or how to remember, is that we did just meet each other, so like I can't ever expect him to be a mind reader, I can't expect him to know. You know, the same way that my mom, for example, would know how to comfort me if I'm like I don't want to talk to anybody, but actually I want someone to like hold me in a position yeah, like obviously he doesn't know.
Speaker 4:He only knows what I'm telling him. So, like understanding that we're learning each other, our style, like that's one of the most beautiful things that like attracts me to being married for a really long time is the idea that 20 years from now, we're going to like know each other in such like a different way. Like it just keeps getting better in that way, and then actually when we had Lily and that is like kind of what was really hard Two kids is a lot more than one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man to man, baby, yeah, it's a game changer A lot less time and the girls are 18 months apart and we both were like I don't want to say getting resentful of each other, but we both felt like, oh my God, I'm doing everything and he's like well.
Speaker 4:I'm doing everything and it's like right but that's because it's like no, I do this, no, I do this, no, I did this. It has all the responsibilities of a household. And then there's like, uh, you add kids, or you can add pets, um, and then you divide it. You like, have a conversation, we made it as far as my responsibilities, but his deck had all monotonous tasks.
Speaker 4:They call it daily grind, so he was doing like lawn care trash dishes like the things that just like grate, you and I was doing all the things like they even have like imaginary beings, as like one of the things so like who's managing the tooth fairy, who's managing managing like this kind of stuff?
Speaker 3:So I had like all these things, that's interesting, yeah.
Speaker 4:And so what we learned, this is when we started doing the laundry Full circle, because he's like, listen, I'm doing all these like daily things that are just like drying me, like driving me nuts to my core, and like I swear to God, ever since then it just he appreciated me so much more. I appreciated him so much more. We like shifted the balance a little bit, like so, I guess, to your earlier point just communicating better, but that really was worth it.
Speaker 3:I like that exercise. That is interesting. Doug does do a lot of those tasks which I could see could just wear you down While I am in charge of imaginary beings and a lot of the kids scheduling. Yes, you know, georgia should have a personal assistant with dance and 40 swim and her soccer, but that's, that's really fascinating.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a good. I would say it's like a good investment. They say you should do it every like three to six months. Like as life changes, like I'm assuming you know our kids are just starting to get into like extracurriculars and stuff. But it was a cool, cool thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, sammy, a question for you about starting a business. What would your advice be to someone in like from your first year of starting your first business? They apparently it sounds like they want to start something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, starting your first business? They apparently it sounds like they want to start something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so first when you're a little, when it was in its little infancy.
Speaker 4:I think my mom used to always tell me why not you? So I think that's a big thing. I think, too, a lot of people are like but what about job security?
Speaker 4:But really, especially now, like no job is really secure, so I'm not sure why that would be the reason not to start a business. You know, I think like I learned a lot. I think I'm willing to admit what I don't know as well, which I think is big. I think sometimes I talk to people and they're like I have it all figured out, which is awesome. I could only imagine what that feels like. I don't.
Speaker 4:I didn't even know what an EIN was, so just like understanding that it's a learning curve and I just like understanding that it's a learning curve and, um, I, I am just so grateful that I did it, like I, looking back, I I'm like, wow, that's an incredible journey, I would never have done anything differently. And now I'm at the point, too, where it's so cool. We've done so much work with so many different people. I'm getting referral business and it's just so beautiful. I feel so, so blessed. I don't have a better word for it. But I say, if it's calling you and that's something you're passionate about, why not? You Damn right, girl.
Speaker 3:I like that. Why not you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that. So, Kim, how long have you been in this new, newer role where you're actually managing people? Year, okay. So we've had a year. We've had a year to experience this and, as someone who lived the sales life for a very long time in corporate America and also moved into a director, role I also understand the differences from not only a freedom component, like being an individual contributor the financial component.
Speaker 2:When you take that leap into managing other human beings, it's a whole different thing. So what is your for somebody out there who's either thinking about taking that leap or wants to get doesn't know if maybe they want to do that? Like what's your year reflection on that transition in life?
Speaker 3:I mean I definitely took the path of least or most resistance. I was in my previous role for 10 years, so I mean I could do all the things you know like the back of my hand, yeah, but I wanted a challenge, so that's why I took a new role. I think that if you want to manage people, you have to genuinely care about other human beings my team that you know. If someone's texting me, I get myself so worked up because I'm like I want to answer them right now. I want to get them the answer immediately. I want to make sure that you know, especially with a sales team, all I want to do is remove the roadblocks to make their jobs easier.
Speaker 3:So if you don't genuinely care about other people or you can't have that servant mentality and you were thinking about getting into managing people just to get you to the next step, 10 out of 10 would not recommend. But if you want to care for a group of people so they can get to the next step, then definitely worth it. You're either one or the other. You can't want to lead a sales team and think that you want to. Either you do or you don't. And some people are reps for life and that's perfect. It's perfect. But I just really wanted to go back to leading a team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure you're really good at it. I don't know, man that's.
Speaker 3:I, I you know it's crazy, it's. I've never felt so much self doubt, Like I'm just doubting myself. But then I have to look at myself in the mirror. I'm like I know I could do this, you know I've been very successful in my career thus far. But it just that self-doubt and that imposter syndrome creeps in and you have to like look in the mirror and give yourself a little pep talk and be. It's like when I tell my kids yeah, you could do this, you can do this, I got this. I was playing ping pong with ford over thanksgiving and he just I got this, I could do this.
Speaker 2:That's me and it's every morning. But what? But?
Speaker 2:what a place of great growth where you're so out of your comfort zone and you're so uncomfortable and and I'm telling you, six or seven out of 10 people are never going to do it Like, not not your specific thing just in general, when you feel that everybody wants to go back to ego or back to where they feel like they're kind of like the King of the whatever it's, the, when you can really look at a path and be like this looks really scary. I don't know if I have anything of what it takes, but to have that belief inside when there's nobody else around but you to pep, talk you into like taking that next step down that dark path, I just think that's a just a difference maker in human beings altogether.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I've learned a lot in the past year and I remember when I was interviewing for my job, my director said you're going to be pushed in ways that you never thought that you could be pushed and it's like you had a crystal ball. You know, i's been, it's been a lot, but again, I've learned, I've learned a lot, so I don't have any regrets on the decision that I made so the question around imposter syndrome and like how do you overcome imposter syndrome?
Speaker 2:my opinion is I think it's built inside everyone, I think it's a natural part of the human condition. It's like a just any other like barometer that you have. It's just in there and you have to sort of manage it or build the muscle in the positive or the negative way, and so it's like yeah, every I spiral all the time. Yeah, it's a fluid thing. It's not like, well, I'm over imposter syndrome, now I've beat that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think you're ever beating self doubt a hundred percent. I think you're managing it and getting an edge on it by building your self-confidence. I mean it'd be nice to be like, got that one out of the way. You know, imposter syndrome bye.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I think I think that that's something that you would have to continually manage and also I think it's good to it almost puts you in check a little bit too. I mean, I definitely don't stroll around the earth and think I'm awesome, I'm killing it every day. I mean I think that I have, I think that I do well in things that I do, but I think that that little bit of imposter syndrome just kind of like pulls me in and I don't think that that's something that ever goes away. I think you just work through it by those little wins. So if there was a girl that I worked with years ago and her father was in sales and he would always say, he would say you got to celebrate the wins. You got to celebrate the wins because something bad's going to happen, especially in sales. You know something, something can happen and it's. It could be a multitude of things with customer relationships, products, whatever. But you just I like to celebrate my wins, just celebrate my wins and then just kind of be ready for anything.
Speaker 2:And I would also throw in that a healthy dose of imposter syndrome is good. You know, I don't think it should overtake you by any means, but I think everyone, we're all just flawed people, so like, don't get too ahead of yourself, like walking around puffing your chest out all the time, it's like, yeah, a healthy dose of that self-questioning and self-reflection, I mean, I don't know, I think that's important to have.
Speaker 4:I agree. I always say if it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you I really do believe in that and I also think that you really do find what you're looking for. So when I am in spirals, I mean we're all kind of in similar spaces where it's Easter famine and we are all in sales in some capacity. And some days I'm like, oh, we are crushing it. And some days I'm like what if every single client leaves me tomorrow?
Speaker 1:which like is so irrational.
Speaker 4:So like dialing into my rational brain and like also just like finding different sources of inspiration that like kind of ground me down or like remind me to stay positive, I think helps a lot. Um, but yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. I also think imposter syndrome means you care, which is great. I think it's obviously challenging your comfort. You're growing, like liking it to your child, almost like growing pains when they're growing and their feet like are awkward and there's pains, physical pains. I'm just trying to bring it back. That means they're changing. Like it's a positive thing that we celebrate. So like when we feel that discomfort in ourselves, we really should recognize that as an opportunity where we are growing to your point with kim. Um, yeah, I don't know. I also think you got to be a little bit delusional, the things I have said. Yes, I can do that looking back over the past year and a half alone, like I've been working in this field for 13 years, but on my own running this agency for a year and a half.
Speaker 4:Looking back some of the things I told people yeah, yeah, we do that. We did not do that. And we do it now, and we do it great and we've been doing it for some very large companies. That is wild. But I mean, I also feel like when the universe presents you with an opportunity, you have to say yes, even if it scares you, because that's like how you get to the next place.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, um, okay, another question tell us a little more about the butterfly guild funny you ask so funny, you should ask well, um, butterfly killed.
Speaker 3:Um is a women's auxiliary group of nationwide children's hospital that dates back to the hospital's beginnings. We've reached millions of dollars. We currently support hospice and palliative care at the hospital and we have a multitude of fundraisers throughout the year. We just had our November shave off last night, which Doug lost his beard, thank God. Shave off last night, which doug lost his beard, thank god, um. And we have a play coming up um march 7th through the 9th at the palace theater and nina west is in it. She's playing the witch in into the woods, um. And then we do a butterfly ball. We volunteer at the Memorial Tournament. It is. I love it because it is a group of women from all over central Ohio that are all ages, from all backgrounds, and we all come together for one common reason and that's to raise money. I have had so much fun. This is my going into fourth year. I'm one of the co-presidents. I'm a master of recruiting people to Butterfly Guild. I got Sammy on, so she's working with the marketing team.
Speaker 3:People, if you wake up right and you're healthy and you're happy and you're blessed, or you feel blessed with your family and your job just to find a way to give back. And it doesn't have to be this grand gesture where you're working full-time at foundation. You could find opportunities where you can offer five hours. You know, one hour, I mean if you do one. If everybody did one good thing, you know, did one charitable thing per year, I just think that the world would be a different place and I feel very lucky for the things that I have. That's why I make it a priority and granted, much like everything, I take it to the nth degree where I, you know so I uh, but if someone were a general member, it's one meeting a month, you know.
Speaker 3:And I will say another thing I feel very strongly about because I feel very strongly about a lot of things is teaching your children to give back and be charitable. Or we're taking the kids to a Seeds of Caring event this Saturday at the main library downtown where, like Ford in Georgia, can volunteer. I just think that that's so important as we think about the years to come to create, put these little seeds in these kiddos' heads to have the desire to give back.
Speaker 4:Yeah kiddos heads to have the desire to give back. Yeah, I think too. A lot of people feel like things are out of control or the world's going to shit, and this is something you can do, that you are part of the solution. I think one of my clients, mary, haven that's why I? Love them so much. I've never personally had any um experiences with addiction, but I love what they do, because everyone is talking about a lot of problems and not a lot of people are talking about solutions and I really admire and respect the work that they're doing to be a part of the solution.
Speaker 4:Similarly with Butterfly Guild or any organization, being able to take the time to actually help be a part of the solution is such a powerful, powerful thing.
Speaker 4:I personally struggle with people that are put in situations of circumstance versus choice. It's been something since the trauma with my mom happened, where I'm working on empathy again for people that make bad choices, because a lot of people find themselves in circumstances like these parents and families that have children in hospice and palliative care. That is something no one chose, and so I will never forget. I went to the play last year. This is before Kimmy recruited me.
Speaker 4:And I was looking around and they give tickets to the kids that are in hospice care, right? And they can come with their families and there were a lot of kids there on ventilators and a lot of kids there wheelchair bound, and the one little girl I will never forget. I saw her go backstage. I could literally cry thinking about it. Saw her go backstage and the way that the people in the play were being so lovely so kind, so gracious to her and it could be one of her last.
Speaker 4:Yeah, memories and experiences, and I just feel like what could mean more? Like, yeah, people are in one of the worst circumstances their lives. No one chose to be here. Like anything we can do to make their lives better, happier, for the moments that they have, we I know we can't add days to their lives, but we can add life to their days, and so I just. That's why I think it's really noble and I'm happy to make those real for you all day, baby.
Speaker 3:This is the problem with me, with tears in my eyes. So the presidents have to. So we get up in the beginning of every performance and welcome everybody. And I told Arlene which is very unfair because she's going to be just a few months postpartum I physically don't think I can get up and share the patient's story. I think I can welcome, just be a mess, because I am an emotional roller coaster as soon as I think about something sad, because then you think about what they're going through and their day-to-day and their family, and then their siblings, and it's just I like then spiral and I'm you tell, you tell one story and I'm like you have a great heart, though, also, I think a lot of times it's easy to get so self-consumed in what's happening in your life and your bubble and your thoughts and your spirals or whatever.
Speaker 4:Yeah, honestly, it's such a gift to just like throw that energy into someone else and think about somebody else and think about something else, and not have it be so self-centered, like your thoughts and um, you really can't think about anything else. When you're like thinking about where the money is going for these families and your point, the community, that is like BG. I don't know, I just think it's really powerful. Sign me up.
Speaker 2:Hey, let me know, Let me know, let me know where I can help.
Speaker 3:Well, if anybody would like to sign up, they could always slide into one of our DMS. Not about feet, but you can talk about energy. That's great.
Speaker 2:Okay, so to round out the convo, last question so how do you stay so positive in a world where it just seems like there's so much focus on chaos, negativity and unrest?
Speaker 4:I have to really limit my exposure to things. Um, I had, you guys know, obviously because you're my actual friends, but I had some real trauma happen six years ago with my mom and I really had to be careful about what I expose myself to, because it really is what you almost like ingest. You know it's no different than food. If you think of it that way and like what you take in is what's fueling you so I have to be really careful.
Speaker 4:I follow like a lot of positive Instagram accounts and I do like try to find a good balance of like positive, happy things. I tell everyone I can't watch a show that's like darker than Modern Family, that's like my threshold.
Speaker 3:Well, I watch murder, so I know. But another way, we're the same but different.
Speaker 4:Yeah, very, very different, um, so I, I don't know. I also don't really take time for granted because I know, like, how quickly it can be taken away from you. So I do try to like my girls are the joys of my life, like they are the biggest blessings. I just try to have fun. I don't know, like life it's not that serious and it's meant to be fun and I just really try to make everything fun. Also, now I have so much power and peace with owning my own business that I can choose who I work with, and I really don't work with people that I don't like or that I think aren't ethically a match for me. You know the ethos of the companies that I choose to work with, as much as they're choosing to work with me, vice versa. So I like love my clients. That's so fun. My life is just fun, but it's fun intentionally, it's fun by design, like I, I really do things and just try to make it fun.
Speaker 4:Last night we were loading laundry up and we were like making it a game Like I don't know just why not.
Speaker 3:Like it's so short and it's so special. I watch the news only in the morning just so I can get a little dabble of what's going on in the world. But I'm able to decipher things that I can and can't control too. And with limiting exposure I can't follow people friends, mostly that just spew political things. That's a no for me dog. So I kind of shut that down because that is something I can control.
Speaker 2:Do you mute them, or you like block them, or how do you?
Speaker 3:I just mute them. I just mute them. Sometimes if I'm feeling feisty, maybe I'll throw in a comment, but I usually don't do that. I have to limit that. And then, like you talk about time Time is I'm very, like, cognizant of time. So I think I just try to control what I can control. There are certain things that I can't. I control the people that I interact with with the amount of time that we have in the day. If I'm giving someone my time, I value them. Have in the day. If I'm giving someone my time, I value them. So I think, just investing that with the right people and trying to surround yourself with as much positivity as you can but yeah, I mean, the world's crazy. And if you don't think that I don't sit and worry about that for my kids mostly, then you don't know me, because I certainly spend time, but again, I can't control everything. I can't sit and just worry. I have to be present in, you know, my job and my family and all the extracurricular things that I do, but I definitely spiral I.
Speaker 4:The other thing is two, two things. I don't think we're meant to know this much. Information period the end y'all got it now this is the most extreme, obviously.
Speaker 4:It's ever been like to have the exposure to things that we do, the visuals, all of it. It's a lot like never before, but also everyone's like, oh, the world's coming to shit. I would never want to have kids. I have so many people say this to me. I would never want to put kids into this world. Are you kidding me? That is what makes me the most excited. Yeah, like, first off, I'm sorry our generation compared to the last generation. God love the boomers, but we are really doing a great job. You know, going to therapy, healing these things, breaking generational cycles, like doing a lot. And then the kids that we're raising are so fucking cool. Our kids are awesome. They are compassionate, they are kind, they are thoughtful, they are emotionally intelligent. Like I have more hope for the future than ever before. It's just gonna get better. Like, if anything, I feel like having kids and raising them to be like awesome, good people is the best thing you could do.
Speaker 3:So I don't know that's the best thing you could do. That's darcy made that comment. It's literally the most important job that we could do now, I really believe, is raise kind, compassionate, empathetic, authentic human beings like that is how we will change the world, so that's 100, I think that, that's huge also this is funny.
Speaker 4:You guys might not know it if you're not readers, but um she reads books guys, did everybody hear that she? Reads books very cerebral if you read my goodreads like this is rudimentary it's all smart, it is, it's bad um, but no, I was trying to read lessons in chemistry.
Speaker 4:It's like a very cliche book and I it's too heavy for me, I can't read it. My friends think I'm like so weak, but I was reading. It starts off in 1960 and the woman is sexually assaulted and they're like we don't believe you, it was you asked for it or whatever. Then she like like is going through depression. They're like figure it out on your own. She can't even open a credit card.
Speaker 3:Like and this was like not that long ago, like we really are.
Speaker 4:I know there are ways that we can be better, but we have really done a lot in a short amount of time in a very positive direction. So, as much as things sometimes feel out of control again, again remembering, celebrating the wins, like focusing on that, I do think there are a lot of beautiful, positive things that are happening Acceptance and like love and inclusion, and a lot of things are awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and with that, ladies, I think we could just close out on that positive note. Thank you so much for coming in, thank, you for having us. Seeing your faces has just kind of just filled this little invisible cup inside my little heart. Cup cup cup inside my little heart and with that, if you're still out there following your girl, fall man, youtube, spotify, apple or whatever, you get your podcast and until next time, keep moving baby. Hey, hey, raise some good kids stay positive, hey, hey.
