The Keri Croft Show
The Keri Croft Show is a podcast for people building something BADASS. A business. A dream. A life that actually feels like yours.
Hosted by Keri Croft, this podcast explores the real stories behind the build, what it takes to start, and more importantly, the Mental Athleticism™ it takes to stay in it when the excitement fades and the work gets real.
The Keri Croft Show features conversations with founders, creatives, musicians and people in the middle of building something meaningful, without the highlight reel.
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The Keri Croft Show
In Her Badass Era LIVE!
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I pushed myself into a new level with this one.
For the first time ever, The Keri Croft Show went live with an IRL experience called “In Her Badass Era.”
I sat down with a room full of female entrepreneurs who are actually building something and we got honest about what it really takes. Not the highlight reel. The chaos, the self-doubt, the pressure, the moments you think you’re going to fail, and the decision to move anyway.
This wasn’t scripted. It wasn’t polished. It was real conversations happening in real time with seven women who are in it.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re figuring it out as you go, you’re not alone. This episode is for you.
And to everyone who showed up for this first one, thank you. Truly. Being in that room with you meant more than I can put into words.
I’m already thinking about the next one… and I can’t wait.
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SPEAKER_10Welcome! Welcome to the show. Alright, if I never see another cue card again, it'll be too soon. Alright, well, you go. Where are you at? Come on up.
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SPEAKER_12Miss Malika, how are you doing? How are you feeling?
SPEAKER_10I'm doing well. Are you more excited or more nervous? I'm more nervous. Hey, we're Sammy Janey. Right. Okay, you're gonna keep me accountable all time, right? Because you're okay.
SPEAKER_12So your job is to make things beautiful and to make things seem this thing. Seem flawless. And you're curating with MMJ events and aid and grace. That's what you do. It's like the J-Lo movie only knot, right? So it's easy to look at you and think, holy shit, this girl's got it all together. That's like what you do. But how off is that? Like how unreal is that in real life?
SPEAKER_01It's it's very off. So very off.
SPEAKER_12Very off. So how? Like what is your regular life? What's your day look like?
SPEAKER_01It's chaos. I mean, my team deals with my chaos. I'm coming in, I have 500 things in my hand, I haven't eaten, I've spilled something, whatever. Like it's I got through three kids, so I've gotten two off to school, one's with a nanny, I'm running in, my to-do list is 7500 bajillion things, and I'm checking in with each team. And I it's just stressful chaos all the time.
SPEAKER_12So I think everybody in this room can feel that. No matter what your life looks like, we're all juggling plates, especially as women, because y'all know we're great multitaskers, we run the world. But but there's a difference though, sometimes people are stuck, and I talked about people who are stuck and they can't move. Like, what has allowed you to move anyway? So when you saw a gap when you were like just out of college and you decide to start this thing, and then you see a gap in the furniture space. What is it inside you that that is like you can do this? You can make this move. But you would tell somebody else who's on the fence who doesn't have that confidence.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I don't necessarily know if it's confidence. Like for me, it was self-doubt. Like, I never did well in school, so I was like, okay, what am I gonna do? I suck at math, I I flirted my way through biology. Like, what do I do with my life? And so I think for me, I just went with my passion and I carried around bridal magazines in middle school, and people thought I was a weirdo, and I was like, I'm gonna do this, and I did it to I thought if but I always had that voice in my head that was like, if I fail, what am I gonna do? And so I switched my major because I didn't want to work at a hotel, and so I did communication, which is just like blah, because I thought I could like at least if I fail, I was always thinking I was going to fail, and and but I just kept going and I just kept pushing and I kept, you know, when that voice of doubt started speaking, then I would you know speak to it of like no, I can do this, you know, and I just kept pushing myself.
SPEAKER_12And that's a great point. So, how many people in here always think they're gonna fail? Raise your hand, be honest about it. I think every single day of my life, no, no shit. Like, there's never a day that goes by where I'm like, what are you doing? You're a wild animal. The difference between the people who figure it out and the people who don't is they move anyway. And what I want to tell you tonight is this it doesn't have to be this Herculean jump off the Grand Canyon move. Some days it's just looking at the board and just looking at that one piece that's right in front of you. And it might actually be a sideways move. It might not even be just make a move that day, and that move might be going in the mirror saying, I'm MF and Malika Joylith, right? Like that's the difference between people. So I'm very impressed by everything that that your team has done here. Like, you're steady under fire, right? And that's what your team, I asked them, because I don't know you well yet. Like you're coming on the pod, you have just now floating around. Uh, where where are you two? Like the the girls that were helping me set up, where are you guys? They said the nicest things about you and that you are unflappable, you're unshakable, and you have to be like so. Tell me, what is the like just from doing this event, are you kidding me? Mad props. What is the biggest fail or big biggest oh shit moment like in real time that happened? Or one of them?
SPEAKER_01I literally could not pick one. I mean, I always said I want to write a book one day, but I'm a terrible writer, so I won't. But I think stories are just I mean, I've had tents blow away the morning of the wedding. I've had tents flood that were multi, you know, hundred thousand dollar events. I've had cakes be covered in ants. I've walked in on people having sex. Like, I literally talked about that. Were they at the bridal party? There's nothing like a wedding that gets people all of like people are always doing shit at weddings, right? It's crazy. Yeah, I had transportation forget the groom and this bride. It was a well-known family in Columbus. The groom called the bride was really intimate. She was very into like a specific shot, and it was like two minutes for that shot, and we're 10 minutes away, and the groom calls me like the transportation didn't come, and I was like, Okay, got this. All right. Um, threw my shoes off, took off running, grabbed my car, drove around, read through, went through red lights, threw the groom and his best man in my car. They're sitting on my kids' car seats, little mermaids playing, and I'm running through red lights. I'm like, I gotta get this shot.
SPEAKER_12I love that. You just do what you have to do. Yeah, and you're steady under fire. I think it'd be a great, like a great quality to build. I need to work on that. How are we on time? You're doing great. Okay, great. Okay, matcha or coffee for you.
SPEAKER_01Um, coffee. I've actually never had matcha in my entire life.
SPEAKER_12You look you look like a morning routine girl. Are you morning routine or chaos? Uh both? Okay. Well, that's a good, that's a really great answer, actually. What am I even thinking? Uh, one thing you're obsessed with right now that like in the event space.
SPEAKER_01In in what?
SPEAKER_12In the event space, like that people are doing like a trend.
SPEAKER_01Oh, not doing trends. Like I have brides that are wanting to do loud, bright patterns, and then others that are wanting to do traditional, and others that like they're just they're not going with the trends, which is nice.
SPEAKER_12One thing that needs to die in the trends, in that space. You told me white all white everything.
SPEAKER_01All white everything. I hate to say that because I'm kind of an all-white girl. Like, I if I were to get married again, maybe I would do that.
SPEAKER_12You're not gonna get married again.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm not. I love my husband. He's so smart.
SPEAKER_12You said he was just he's you said he was the rock that kept you going.
SPEAKER_01He he is, he is great. I'm just saying, if you're wanting an all-white man, it's fine. I'm just saying, when you get to come in and you say I want patterned in loud and bold and whatever, then it gets our team very excited because we get to do something out the way. Right.
SPEAKER_12Um, something people will be surprised to know about you. Like something weird. Give us something good.
SPEAKER_01Um I always drink apple juice only on an airplane. Only on an airplane. Interesting, okay.
SPEAKER_12I like that. Thank you for that riveting tidbit. I don't even know what actually, let's just clip that up. That's exactly what's going to go on. No to Kate. That's what's going on social media. Uh and last but not least, what is the most badass quality that you recognize in another woman?
SPEAKER_01Um, the ability to be real and to say you don't have your shit together, I think is great. Because nobody wants to look at someone who's like perfect and then feel bad about themselves that they're failing in a certain way or not holding up to the standards. Like, you know, for me, three businesses, three different teams, three kids, like it's a lot. And I'm juggling a lot of balls, and I don't I know that I'm not always doing perfect. So when I look at someone and I'm like, okay, I can relate to that, people just want to relate, not like feel bad. So I think being honest about your struggles and your positives and your negatives and all the things is really kind of what makes you badass.
SPEAKER_12I love that. And I'm really enjoying getting to know you. And thank you so much for the generosity for everything you guys did. I really appreciate it. I will take one question for Malika if somebody wants to shout it. Okay. Is that does anybody have one question? Anything?
SPEAKER_08Malika, what were you listening to on the way here?
SPEAKER_12Oh, that yes to you.
SPEAKER_01I like that question. Oh God. I'm only happy when it rains by garbage. Oh, that's good.
Tracy On Design And Dyslexia
SPEAKER_12I love that. Give it up for Malika Joyless. All right, Tracy, my girl. Thank you, Malika. Go grab yourself a drink. It's over. Now you can just relax. Sigh of relief. That's my Bufang. Real quick, I'm gonna keep this light and just very quick, but I will say it did stalk Tracy out. I have never had a design, like seen a design, like how a whole house designed in a way that I was like, I have to have this person. Long story bearable, I went to like Franklin County Auditor, it was like a P.O. box. I looked for her for like a year, and I found her finally, and then became was lucky enough to become friends with this like low-key baddie. So, Tracy, you grew up in a very unconventional way. Mom leaves dad, says, I'm out of here, I'm gonna go make my own money, do my own shit. She decides to take you guys, travels around the country. It's like little mermaids. You guys see little mermaids? Okay, so this is what Tracy grew up with, and I feel like that has allowed you to draw outside of the lines. How has that impacted you as a person in the way you design and live your life?
SPEAKER_08Um I think you know, design is ever changing. I think for me growing up, I went to 10 different schools. I, you know, a chameleon, you can reinvent yourself every single school, right? So I learned to kind of embrace that. Um, and really just, you know, uh everybody I met, every, you know, just really everything I did. And and really for me, design, you know, I had a career in corporate life, but design was always my core thing. And that actually got me through all the chaos in my life. Uh I just kind of hunkered down, and anything that I thought in my mind I'd create, whether it was clothes or my room or anything, it was just an outlet for me to kind of escape. And I I really think that you know the way I grew up shaped who I am. Yeah. And how I designed, you know, this crazy chaos, creative chaos. It's my best.
SPEAKER_12And you know, it's funny because you are someone who just like blazes your own trail. And it's funny how growing up like that does kind of give you that there's no there's no template. I'm gonna make my own, I'm gonna design my own thing. And I think that even though it was probably tumultuous at the time and felt unfair, or like, wait, why are things this way? It's like, wait, what that gave you on the other side, because a lot of people are sitting around waiting for permission from this like imaginary thing that's never coming, like, oh wait, I should do this because what if this happened?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, you know, to be able to be audacious enough and bold enough, yeah, you know learn to be competent at a young age, you know, or fake it.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, so but you also learn differently at a young age. So you had dyslexia, ADD, and so how that impacted, you know, you and I think for people in this room who are parents too, dealing with kids that may have some any kind of neurodivergency or have a special need or something that's different, like what would you say to them, you know, how how to handle their kids or how we handle them today versus when you were young, you know.
SPEAKER_08I think you know, when I was young, they didn't even know about it, right? So they just thought you're stupid, right? And I think that's why I leaned into creative because that was my passion. And I would say my daughter is actually both as well. So I knew at a young age and got her tested, and I don't really believe in in drugs, right? So I've really tried to, you know, like get her prepared as you know, as as much as she possibly can. School is really hard, and it's you know, for for this, they I will say now schools are amazing. Um, she was they teach differently now. Actually, they you know, I don't know, in the 80s they came up with a different way of teaching, and and it has changed, I think, people in our spot where you know they they coach you how to actually learn phonically. And so I would just say, you know, get the best teachers for your children, be an advocate for your children, um, and listen to them. They they need you more than than ever. And yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_12If you have anything like that and that resonates, you want to talk to Tracy after. See, we learn so much about each other. Okay, rapid fire, honey. Okay, morning person or night owl. Definitely a night owl. That I that doesn't surprise me. Um, one thing you're protecting your energy from right now, aside from me.
SPEAKER_08I think just being open to everybody, I'm not really trying to protect anything at the moment. I feel like I'm more open than I probably have been in a long time.
SPEAKER_12Okay, good. Something simple that brings you joy.
SPEAKER_08Uh my kids.
SPEAKER_12Design trend that needs to die.
SPEAKER_08White ceilings. I hate them. Oh, you're all about that.
SPEAKER_12You're no, no, listen. She comes to my house, right? So now I always white ceilings. Then she comes back over four years later, she's like, oh, the color drench, it's all about the color drench. These it it draws the eye up. I'm like, you really? I mean I know, no, I know. Drawing outside the lines, drawing outside the lines. Okay, and if you don't know, Tracy also works with her husband, Stacy, who is an is really good looking guy, Metro, but also a farmer, and he he has like a farm in like close alignment, so he's such a juxtaposition. And he also has a crazy voice, which is amazing, but like I'm sure you listening to it all the time, you're like, just seriously? Okay, so best advice, and Lindsay Remley, are you in here? Hey girl. She's like, I feel I feel this in my in my soul deeply. Best advice for someone considering going into biz with their partner, aside from just get your muffs and lock yourself in a room.
SPEAKER_08It's a rocky road. I I would not lie. It you are constantly with them. There is no separation, there is no turn-off switch. You see them morning, noon, and night. You cannot come home and bitch about your partner because they're right there. So I would say, advice if somebody's trying to do this, I would say understand what your strengths are and lean into those. Um, you know, you bring something to the table, you know. I'm creative, and you know, he's numbers, and you know, it works. And I think respecting each other's strength and being, you know, the trust and the love, and make sure you have some separation time.
SPEAKER_12Well, I love you dearly, and I love him, and I'm so thankful that you did this tonight and got everybody got a taste of Tracy. Anybody have one question for Tracy quickly? Anybody? Anyone to shout something out? Anything?
SPEAKER_08Um, Kat. She's at um with pen zones, but she's down um in in German village at Max.
Shoutouts, Gifts, And Local Brands
SPEAKER_12Okay, cool. All right, Tracy. Thank you so, so much. Um, yeah, I'm gonna take just take a little moment here to recognize some people in the room. Annie, my girl. Annie is from Byte This. Annie has created a cult following in Clintonville. She's been on my show. Uh you can stand up and just say hello to everybody. And just for okay, she has no, you absolutely do not. You don't have to do shit you don't want to do in this room. But there you are. Uh there's too many things about her that I love. Annie shares her sober journey lovingly online. Um, she has a line out the damn door, not just for her bait goods, but for who she is. And I've just loved getting to know her, and she so uh generously has some desserts back here. So if you haven't been to Clintonville to see Annie, please please go bite this. Okay. Uh I'm just gonna pull some things out of this incredible gift bag, which by the way, we strategically put upstairs, so you have to go into the content room and give us some content so we can drip it out. Okay, just being transparent. All right, where's my friends at Donaldson? I feel like like Corbin is here somewhere. Donaldson, uh Donaldson is giving a hundred dollar gift certificate, okay, to anyone that wants to go do some some stuff, some zhuzhing. Uh, of course, panacea luxury. You've outdone yourself, Krista. Um, there, what is on this? This is something, even in addition to the giveaway. Two hours of access in the this is a lot of shit. Okay, one more. One more heart boss book. And then I'm gonna keep doing this, but I'm just not gonna do them all right now, so you have to sit through it.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
Dr Shepherd On Divorce Grace
SPEAKER_12And then oh, where's Lacquer? Where my girl, Lacquer, where's Lisa? Lisa Suarez. Okay. Have you guys anybody been to Lacquer? If you haven't been, now's your invitation. Okay? All right. Up next, we have none other than my girl, Dr. Chef Dog. That's right, girl. Okay, so guess, if anybody had to guess what we're gonna talk about with Dr. Shepherd today, what would you what would you guess? Wrong. Really threw you guys for a loop tonight. Okay, so first of all, I will say this. Dr. Shepard has been with me for 15 years and through some of the hardest times of my life. She is truly an angel on earth. And I mean it when I say if you don't have someone that you feel really, really good about in your corner in the OB guy and space, please change that. Um, because not only will they be your advocate, they can also link you into the correct functional medicine space, and they can guide you in a very thoughtful way into like whatever phase of life you're in. So if you're in the baby making phase or if you're in the hot flash phase or the pre-hot flash, there's so much information out there, which I think is so fantastic for us, but it's also very scary, and you have to harness it and you have to really decide what's right and what's not for you. So, this is someone here who will be in your corner and do everything she can.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there's a lot of marketing there. So everybody go to a medical professional.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. So guess what? We're talking about with with Shep Dog. We're talking about the big D, and I mean divorce. Oh, yeah, it's salacious. Okay, so here's what happened. Um, I feel like Dr. Shepherd is a lesson for everyone in not only holding on loosely to something, but grace under pressure. Grace when it's really hard, when you really want to take somebody's intestines out with a spoon, right? That's what I told you. Uh, and hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned, right? When she's in a situation like that. So the way that Kim handled her divorce, I feel like, was so just Kim. But I just want you to talk through that and talk through your rationale around just not only being fair to your ex who was also a doctor and had plenty, but giving more financially and really seeing the big picture. How the hell did you do that?
SPEAKER_04Well, I I think we were really fortunate. I mean, I realize that everybody's situation is really different, and there's a lot of people that are going through it because of abuse and things like that. So, you know, I come from this with, you know, I guess from a place to say that I realize that those situations can be very different. But, you know, for me, I was fortunate enough to, you know, really be able to kind of step back a little bit and encourage people a lot when you're in a tough situation to just kind of take a step back, take a little bit of the emotion out of it if you can, and then think about what you want your future to look like. You know, and for us, that was a big driving force is you know, our primary goal was always our children, right? So when we were going through this really hard thing, you know, we took a step back and we said, you know, we want 20 years from now to be able to share a space together. You know, we don't want our kids to have to pick, you know, does mom get to come to Christmas? Does dad get to come to Christmas? Who, where are we gonna put? People at the wedding, you know, so we just made a commitment to our children in that process that um that they were the most important thing as they they always have been, and you know, I think parenting is all about sacrifice, right? And so um we sacrifice our bodies, we sacrifice our time, we sacrifice everything whenever you choose to be a parent, and you know, that was part of that process was maybe a little bit of sacrifice to be able to have peace and to be able to put them first.
SPEAKER_12Damn, because I mean this in all sincerity. That is the it's that's something that is so much easier said than done.
SPEAKER_04I'm not great at relationships. I do divorce pretty well. That too, that too. Something, right?
SPEAKER_12You can't be amazing in every single facet of your life.
SPEAKER_04That right there is my failure. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_12But when I was thinking about this night, and I was thinking about talking to you, and just how much of an impact that had on me, probably because of situations I've had in my life where I wasn't feeling when I had a rough time in my marriage, I was not feeling grace at all. I was feeling very angry and like you want to go for um the jugular. And so I think with you hearing that, it's like I can take such a page out of that book of just having grace when it's the hardest moment to have it. Um, and then truly holding on loosely to things. Like we all have things right now in our head, every single one of you, there's something you're holding on to so tightly, whether it's a business deal or a relationship or a thing you're trying to push and pull with somebody else, you know. What if you just let go a little bit? You know, what if you just it just stopped being so so critical and so important, you know?
SPEAKER_04Well, relationships are hard, right? I mean, they're hard in marriage and romance, they're hard in friendship sometimes. And so I think you also have to have the perspective that as you go along the journey of life, sometimes that path doesn't follow in the same direction. And so that acknowledgement that that's okay, you know, that that's not it's not always a bad thing, but being able to acknowledge those disparate paths can also lead to growth.
SPEAKER_12So you're always taking care of everybody else, and and you're a doctor and you're a good one, and people always ask you questions and you answer them so lovingly. But how do you make sure that you don't run yourself into the ground? How do you take care of yourself?
SPEAKER_04Oh you know, I I find so much joy in my kids and my family, and you know, it's been a tough year because I'm now an empty nester, but you know, trying to connect with them and trying to connect with, you know, my my family that I choose, my girlfriends and um my partner John. And so I, you know, I really I mean, probably my guilty pleasure is when nobody's in the house and I can just sit on the couch and read a book. You know, that's kind of my piece. I feel like I talk all day long and I listen all day long, and sometimes I just like to shut it all out and just I don't turn on the TV, I don't turn on music, I just sit and chill with the book.
SPEAKER_12Well, you just answered my first rapid fire favorite way to spend an afternoon. Uh functional medicine hype that you do buy into. Like what's one really like a good one that you're like you have to do? Or do you not really have one?
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, I I guess I don't it depends on how you define that, right? I mean, I think that there's some really good vitamin therapy that people should do. Like, I'm a huge advocate for vitamin D. Um, I think that that's super important. I could be a salesperson for coconut oil. So if anybody needs lube, use coconut oil. This is a conversation that we could go on with.
SPEAKER_12Okay, yes, in the interest of time. We'll we'll wrap that right up.
SPEAKER_04What is that?
SPEAKER_12We'll do a whole other podcast. What is the most badass quality you see in another woman?
SPEAKER_04You know, I love people who just embrace their journey. You know, we're all so, so different. And one of my favorite things about my job is just getting to know women and get to follow them through the journey of their life. Everybody's journey is so different. Embrace who you are.
SPEAKER_12Amen, sister. Any questions? Shout out for Chef Dog. Oh, yes, Reagan.
SPEAKER_09I mean, why coconut oil?
SPEAKER_04It works. It doesn't interfere with the pH of the vagina. It's a great blue. You know, all the stupid water-based ones, they just absorb so fast. It coats the tissue. It's awesome. Like, I literally need the Kim Shepherd light brand to coat.
Krista On Business Relentlessness
SPEAKER_12I would love to help you. I would love to help you start that business. I would love to help you start that business. All right, thank you so much. Thank you so much. You are the best. Okay, up next, Krista Guagenti. Come on, girl. There you go. How are you? Always in your pretty jewel tones. Okay, Krista's entrepreneurial journey is epic. Okay? And here's the thing there's so much to talk about. She's done a podcast, so if you want to deep dive later, please do. I'm gonna say this very quickly. Just she had a dream to start a spa, they said no, it's too expensive. Obviously, it's very capital intensive, right? So they're like, you need to go prove yourself, get another franchise. She's like, okay. She goes and gets a blind franchise. Not sexy. She crushes said blind franchise, blows it up, goes back to the bank. Next thing you know, here we are. So my question for you is most people would have completely been on to the next thing. This is too hard, this is for other people. I was not blessed enough to do this. What was it in you though? Like, what do you have in there that made you stay the course? And now here we are with like Camera Mitchell, panacea, and all these things cooking. Like, hey girl, hi you have to kind of talk into her.
SPEAKER_03Okay, can you hear me?
SPEAKER_12Yep. If you love my fan, whatever you gotta do. We got menopause jammies for you too, if you need them.
SPEAKER_03That's what 50s do for you. Um I guess I have to say just that I don't know, just that refusal to take no for an answer. Um relentless pursuit of what I want to do, and never listening to the people who tell me I can't do what I want to do. Like, I honestly, if you tell me that, it's probably gonna make me want to do it more.
SPEAKER_12And that you did, right?
SPEAKER_03Can you tell us a little bit about what's on the horizon with CM? Um, so very excited to be partnering with Camera Mitchell and Crawford Point. We're developing a hotel, spa, multiple restaurant, really cool pool with a pool bar concept in Ridge Park. Um honestly, it's a dream, very humbling for me. I was telling these ladies earlier that I've admired Camera Mitchell for 25 years. So when they came to me and asked me to do this project with them, it was truly a dream come true. So I'm very excited.
SPEAKER_12I love that so much. Okay, and what some people, a lot of people don't know about Panacea, which I think you're gonna love this, is their oncology expertise. I love, I love everything you've done. Can you tell people about this?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so it was always my dream to create this beautiful, amazing, tranquil, relaxing space for people who've had a cancer diagnosis and their support systems so that they would have a place to come and be together and experience all of the immune boosting and healing benefits that all of our services provide, but also to get them out of that sterile hospital medical environment so that they could really forget about their cancer diagnosis and really just be together. And so all of my team are trained in advanced oncology therapeutics. We go through extensive training so that we know how to manage things like extreme hydration, baby skin, physical surgical cycle issues where people have had organism nodes removed and know how to properly modify services so that we're not putting them at increased risk for things like lymphedema and other conditions that go along with having a cancer diagnosis. I could talk about this for hours. There's a lot that goes into it, but um this is the core of our mission and everything that we do at Panacea. When we launched Panacea, it was really, really important to me that the community understand that Panacea was a place for everyone in the community. Because if you're someone who has been diagnosed with cancer, and if you guys don't know, the statistics show that one in every two people will have a cancer diagnosis at something in their life. So this is something unfortunately that affects all of us. And I asked if I asked all of you to raise your hand in this room who've been affected by cancer, I'm gonna bet that a huge portion of this room would raise their hands. And so this does affect everyone, but it's really important to me to make sure that when we launched that the whole community spa was for them because quite frankly, what we learn and what we do in our oncology training translates to everybody in the community, every significant population. And if there's someone going through a cancer diagnosis, you don't want to come to a spa that feels like a cancer spa. I wanted to get people away from that because we know that stress and anxiety exacerbate the proliferation of cancer cell development, and so if they have to think about that when they're coming there, then we kind of defeat the whole purpose of what we're trying to accomplish. So we try to eliminate that completely and make this a beautiful space for everybody, and I think we've done a really good job at it. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_12And need I remind you that the giveaway tonight,$750 spa day of Panacea with two hours of amenities. So where's my girl with the giveaway uh raffle? So you gotta go see her because you can there's ways you can get more tickets and get your name in more than once, so you gotta do that.
SPEAKER_03Um bring someone, bring the person who supports you the most. Because I wanted Panacea to be a place where you can come and build relationships and be together and and love the time together. And people come in and they make new friends and make new connections, and like nothing fills my heart more than when someone's like, I came here by myself and I met all these great people back there. Like, it's such a cool thing. So bring bring your person.
SPEAKER_12Part of success that people don't see aside from all of it.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I don't think they see the grind and the grit and the hustle and the endless sleepless nights and the aches and pains that you feel every night when you get a bad client review, or you get an employee who is maybe not happy in their position, or um yeah, it's just all those things. Like they they keep you up at night. I don't I don't think people see that.
SPEAKER_11Long live the fan! What did you say? The fan.
SPEAKER_12Oh, the fan, the fan. I was like, oh my god, they need to turn the fan on? Is someone is someone unhappy back there? I love you, I love the heckling from you. It's the sweat behind the streets. That we need more hecklers, seriously. Just shout things out. It really just warms my heart. Uh, a piece of business advice that's bullshit.
SPEAKER_03Um a piece of business advice that's bullshit is that you can open it. If anyone tells you ever that you can open a business and you can just sit back, kick your heels up, and watch the money flow in, like that is such bullshit.
SPEAKER_12You're right. You guys, can we give this woman like thank you so much, Krista? Where's Mike the bartender? Where's Mike Flinner? Is he over there? In his purple Mike, where are you? You guys, can we also give him a big round of cocktail for Mike has also become a friend of mine. He has uh has been at my cold masker bunch club a couple of times working out with me, but he has a laundry service. And uh, have you ever thought about maybe taking that off of your plate? And he's also part of or leveraged himself into corporate and commercial space now. So if you have places like that have a lot of laundry, this guy he has what's called the fluff force one outside. It's the purple fluff, it's the fluff force one. Wouldn't you like to see this guy rolled up in your laundry again? No shit. Like, and then where's my girl? The tox dumbling, little sweet girl. So this is Ray. Her last name used to be Ray. She's a twin, and I never know if it's Michelle or or Megan, but I think it's Michelle. It's Megan, see. Every single time. I they're they are literally identical, and and so I call them my Ray's. Okay, they have opened up an incredible space in Dublin called the Talks. Okay, and so she's also giving a facial and a massage away tonight. Anything else you want to say about your space?
SPEAKER_00Um, we're brand new, and everything she said about owning a business is everything that I would say. It's a lot harder than I probably ever knew. And um I just it's amazing to hear all of you guys talk because you inspire like new owners. I mean, we've been open for a month, so um I just want to say, like, please come check us out. It's a holistic service. Um, it's great. I I tell everyone it's great for beauty and health. So, what more could you want? And um, we'd love to have all of you.
SPEAKER_12I mean, go visit my girls at the top's. They're the best. I mean, they're the best, truly the best. I love you. I just, you know, I'm such a just this is just how I roll.
SPEAKER_10You didn't ask me if I wanted to say.
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SPEAKER_12Oh wait, you want to say girl, go, you go right now. You know, you're like, no, now I don't. I did, but I don't. Okay, who else? I'm trying to think. Uh, Ladybird, what's up, girl? She gave a$250 gift certificate. I'm gonna fuck up. I know it. I know I'm gonna forgive somebody and I have the best of my table. So, this is what's great about this format of heckling. You can throw something at me, you can heckle and say, hey, you forgot me. Please do that because I really have tried hard here. Okay, so who's next? We have this little sassy lady. Come on up. Come on up. Yeah, we talk, we're talking to you, Liz. What's up, girl? How are we? Yeah, that's awesome. Look at her. Can you just drink her in a little bit and then come up?
SPEAKER_06So cold for being here.
SPEAKER_12Well, you are just you're just cold because you're I feel cold because you're here.
SPEAKER_06No, this is so fun. Thank you for doing it. Thank you. Let's take a moment out much.
SPEAKER_12Well, that's you know what? Your golden empire. Um, so have has everybody seen the Peppy pop-up moment upstairs? Make sure you go check it out, okay? So, Liz, you did all this from zero. You are working as a receptionist at the car dealership.
SPEAKER_06I sure would.
SPEAKER_12Can we picture this girl in like her 20s, just kind of like, you know, unfulfilled, beautiful, kind of thinking, what the hell am I doing here at the Floor dealership or whatever it was? Knowing she was meant for more, but not knowing how, right? Yeah. So many of us know we're meant for more, but we don't know how. And some of us figure out a way, right? And that's what you did. So talk to us a little bit about the fact this brand is so you embody it, so like you're on a lot of the like if you guys go to Peppy Forevi, it's she's up there and she should be. She's like perfect brand. But that has to be very like parasocial, right? How has that been? Like being so the face of the brand and having people thinking like, you can't lose weight, you can't gain weight, you can't do this, you can't do that.
SPEAKER_06So, one of the one of the reasons why Peppy Forevi did so well is because it was right at the beginning of the body positivity movement. It was like a few years before that. So our our brand is mid-size, it's predominantly size six through 16. Um, and whenever I've I've been I've gone up and down weight so much, like I think my heaviest weight was 250, and this was before I had my daughter. So I've been size like up to an 18, and now I'm an eight, I've gone back and forth. And during that time, I was running Heavy for Eve, which is predominantly a mid-sized brand. So I've been so fortunate to have the most amazing customers, like them truly, I know everyone says that, but truly so amazing. And they've been with me through a lot of um the journey of that. Um, I did find, contrary to popular belief, that I was actually more accepted whenever I was heavier because of my brand than when it like what I am now, by especially by new customers. Um, and because I am on the website, and like my like I'm like I am Pebby's a nickname, um, and I am all over the website, so is my ass. It is it is all over it. You want to see a side slip T, you will see a lot of my butt. It's a good time. But in that, there's also cellulite and stretch marks, and that's kind of like the premise of my brand. But people really had a hard time grasping whenever I finally started to lose weight. They felt like I was I was so afraid of this, and I knew it was happening. I'm like, they're gonna feel like I'm leaving them behind. Because I remember whenever I was the heavier girl in my friend group, and someone would lose weight or choose to make healthier decisions for themselves, I was happy for them, but I was terrified for what that meant for me. I felt like they were leaving me behind and they were off to do better things, and here I was, and I I could have made the same decisions, but I wasn't mentally prepared to, and I was so afraid that that was gonna happen, and it did. Now, luckily we're on the upswing of that, but that was something I've really had to work through over the last couple of years.
SPEAKER_12Parasocial thing is real. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Um, so let's talk about your psychedelics journey.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_12So You took a little journey.
SPEAKER_06I sure did. Listen, this is at like the height of my anxiety, okay? I couldn't leave the house for a couple of years. Um, I would thank God Dorothos existed because I would just go to work in Target and that was it. Like my anxiety was crazy. I was in therapy, I was running the business, like in survival mode for years. I also got stress um shingles before I was 30 because I was so stressed out. Don't recommend it, okay? Take care of yourself. Take that vitamin D. That's for real. Um, what was the question again?
SPEAKER_12Oh, just got my social clip from her. I got the apple juice from you and the social clip from you. We're good, we're out, we're done.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. So before I did, I did ayahuasca, okay. Before I did ayahuasca, though, I would be sitting here and be like, I can't believe I just did that. I'm such an idiot. I'm so stupid. Like, I would just be so hard on myself all the time. And then whenever I did, I went to Costa Rica. I went to this beautiful place. Um, it's called Behold. Did you guys watch the Aaron the Aaron Rodgers documentary? Has anyone seen that? I went to that place. The same place, it's beautiful. And it was like a small group, and I talked to God. I did. I know it sounds crazy, and I know, like, trust me, I know it sounds crazy because I don't, I'm not a drinker, I've never really done hard drugs. Notice I said really. I've done them, but not consistently, okay. I'll be honest with you. It's just not my thing. No judgment. It's not my thing. But ayahuasca was such a magical experience, and like I couldn't leave the house and I was like, enough is enough. Like, I saw the documentary, and before I was even into the second episode, I had my trip booked. Because I'm like, this is it. There's nothing else, like everything I'm doing is just not working. There's something inside of me that just is dark and I want it to come out. Like, I don't know what it is. I've tried church, therapy, all of it. Multiple life coaches, everything. 10 out of 10 recommend. Yeah. 10 out of 10 recommend. Be careful where you go. Again, it's called behold, but it was magical. It was life-changing.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, we're considering an IRL on the whole psychedelic thing. I mean, I just there's been too many conversations and people who are curious about it. We'll see how that goes.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_12Okay, rapid fire. Being the face of your brand is one word. Don't overthink it.
SPEAKER_06Um honorable.
SPEAKER_12Ooh, yes. That's a good answer. Something people assume that about you that just isn't true.
SPEAKER_06That I'm an extrovert. I'm actually a very big introvert. Not that you can tell from this, but this is different.
SPEAKER_12This is cool. We're all friends here. We're all friends. Something I no longer let people have an opinion on.
SPEAKER_06Oh, well, I mean, they can have an opinion, I just don't care.
SPEAKER_12Oh, get it, girl. Get that. Hey, okay, so I try to sound cool here. Fashion trend that cooks. Is that what they say? Or is that a good thing?
SPEAKER_06Because I think cooks can be good and bad.
SPEAKER_12Cooks, but it is it cooked, okay.
SPEAKER_06Fashion trend that cooks.
SPEAKER_12Fashion trend that cooks. Prink it's like, don't look at me.
SPEAKER_06Listen, I love a good laser. And lasers are timeless. Oh yeah. I love a good laser.
SPEAKER_12Your toxic trait.
SPEAKER_06Which one? Um very moody. Oh, very moody.
SPEAKER_12Unpopular opinion. Anyone else have one out here? Felicia! Yay! Felicia did this wall, guys. Can you give her a little hell yeah? That's my girl right there. Unpopular opinion.
SPEAKER_05My unpopular opinion?
SPEAKER_12Yeah, just on anything. Or you can skip it.
SPEAKER_05I got nothing.
SPEAKER_12Okay. Anyone have a question for my girl? What is it?
unknownSee that booty.
SPEAKER_12Joe the booty. Joe the booty. That's ready. Alrighty. Anybody have another question for? Liz, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02It's her big birthday today.
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SPEAKER_07So I've been doing the work of rocks for 20 years. Like the the research behind rocks started in 2006, and that was like our first programs in schools, the first studies around it. And at that point, I had no real interest in parenting. Um, and so I've been like doing this work, studying girls, doing giant research studies. We've had 60,000 girls go through rocks, and and now I'm a mom and to a girl, which is such a gift and terrifying, right? Because I feel like everyone's gonna be like, ooh, let's see how Hinckelman's daughter turns out, you know, right? And I like I I fear that um for her, and she's just starting to like understand what rocks is. She loves like she likes coming to see all the rocks ladies at the office and um and knows that it's about girls and like you know, strong women, but when she comes to fully understand it, I feel a little nervous about that, honestly.
SPEAKER_12Okay, so what do you like? What would you tell us at what point do we begin struggling with things like boundaries, validation, self-worth? What are you seeing out there? And I don't even want the answer, honestly. I'm asking, but I don't want the answer.
SPEAKER_07Um so in our research, we we surveyed 17,500 girls across the country and um and found that confidence begins to decline in fifth grade. That's where our research started. So between fifth and ninth grade, girls' confidence plummets and it doesn't rebound. Um, and so we see a lot of complexity between the fifth and ninth grade years. Um and that's where girls start to question themselves, question if they should speak up. Uh they feel afraid to speak their mind because they don't want people to think they're bossy, and their relationships become complex at that point, too. Of you know, my girl will come in and say to like a random girl, like, hey, do you want to be friends? And I think like we lose that at a very early point, and then we become judgmental and we, are you my people? What do you look like? Are you my friend? Can we get together? You know, and and so that like challenge of finding support starts unfortunately in late elementary school for girls, sometimes earlier. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So I would be very daughter, what can you say to her?
SPEAKER_08She's a competent woman, like what is the best thing we can say to me to her company.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I mean, I think the what you would say to her is to affirm the reality that she's experiencing. What we hear from girls so much is just listen to me. Don't tell me that what I think is stupid, don't tell me that I shouldn't care about something, because girls hear so much, like, oh, why do you care what those other girls think? Or who cares if they left you out of the group chat? Or it doesn't matter what these people say, and for them, it does. And I think so often we have this experience of having dealt with harder things. Um, but we've been young, they haven't been old, and so we've experienced all this stuff that they haven't yet, and we minimize their challenges as juvenile or not important, and for them, they just want to be affirmed, listened to, heard, and Todd's people starving for attention out there.
SPEAKER_11We hear you! Oh, shout out to Todd!
SPEAKER_12What I what I was gonna say is in some way we're flying blind no matter what, because we can't transport ourselves back. Like we we there we're we didn't have social media, we didn't have the same access. So there's gonna be a part of our parenting that literally is wearing a blindfold. You know, and that's so scary. I have no idea what that felt like with social media and access.
SPEAKER_07It's crazy. So we shouldn't try to pretend that we know, right? So we shouldn't say, like, well, I was your age once and I know exactly how you feel. Because they're like, you're you're old and like the world is so different, and you you don't know how I feel. And and I think that difference with with technology has like transformed their experiences in ways that we don't understand. Felicia.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, um, so I I have worked with some youth, and uh just from like uh personal show that I had uh very uh very conservative religion and so on kind of like the press for the wrong reason.
SPEAKER_07How do you find a balance between empowerment and modest so uh uh the concept of modesty is really one that we have to deconstruct of who is that for and what is it about? And we tend to talk about modesty as it pertains to girls only, and we don't talk about modesty as it pertains to people that aren't girls. And I think that it when we do a gender analysis of the ideals around modesty, we find that it is designed to hold girls back and to blame girls for things that happen to that. So we'll say, Well, what were you wearing? Why did you bring that on yourself? And so when a girl experiences sexual harassment or sexual violence, we look to her first for the rationale for that to understand, like, well, what were you thinking, or why did you go there, or why did you drink that, or why did you wear that? And so I think the concept of modesty is complicated and complex and is really rooted in things that aren't necessarily helpful or empowering for girls. At the same time, we also want girls to feel proud and we want them to be safe. And so I think there is a space in which we can help them disaggregate like what they're seeing and what they're experiencing, but also see the through line of where those messages are coming from and why so we had a really good conversation team this whole thing up, and you had mentioned something that I felt was very relevant to me right now, and and I think to all of us.
SPEAKER_12So we talk about boundaries, right? And it's this big thing you see everywhere. It's like set your boundaries, and we're like, yeah, girl, set them. Like this is this is what you do, you set your boundaries. But what if you're the person that someone's setting a boundary from? Like, what if you're the person someone's doing that to? Like that doesn't feel great. Like if somebody doesn't follow like unfollows you on social or something, or and even at my ripe old age, if somebody's on, I'm like, oh what it I'm done. Like this is right. So the maturity around you know, being able to step up and go, you know what, they don't like my content. Like that's cool. That's a hard pill to swallow. So talk about like being able to accept the boundary, not just like, yeah, go girl set the boundary.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I I mean, I think we've seen this in in rocks and in our lives too, is it it takes so much work to be able to establish boundaries and enforce them. It's one of the hardest things for teaching girls is how to be assertive, right? How to stand up for themselves, how to say no, I don't like that. I don't, I don't appreciate you doing, I don't want to back rub, I need you to, you're sitting too close to me. Those are really hard things for us to get, even as grown-up girls, right? And so, like once we finally get that and we feel really proud of that and we support each other in doing that, we're not always prepared for when that other girl also found her voice and also found her boundary and also found her limit. And and I think what we're seeing is that yeah, we're celebrating all of these girls finding their voice, or us finally being able to say, like, I'm not cool with that, or I'm leaving, or this isn't working for me. But it's it's a totally different set of skills to be able to say, Oh, I I respect your boundary too. And and it doesn't always mean we have to take it personally, but it feels like feedback is hard, someone not liking you is hard. That desire to be liked starts for us when we're so young, and I'm not sure that it goes away. I think you're right.
SPEAKER_12Okay, okay. Confidence is complicated. Yeah, that's a good idea. I see I was trying to stump everybody, and then you stumped me right back. Something women get wrong about confidence.
SPEAKER_07That it's not a pep talk. It's not performative, and it's not built by compliments.
SPEAKER_12Something you no longer tolerate. I don't imagine you tolerate a lot of shit that you don't want to tolerate. Something else me.
SPEAKER_07Harassment and disrespect? The older you get, the more you realize. The longer I want to be here for my daughter.
SPEAKER_10Damn.
SPEAKER_12Feel that? Jackie, where are you at, girl? Jackie feels that too. You feel that too. We were talking about the older we get, the longer you want to be. Or you know, you do the math in your head when you're an older mom, you're like, okay, today the math is the same, right? Damn. Um, most badass thing you recognize in another woman. Her ability to stand up for other women. Yeah. Any heckle, any heckles for my girl Lisa. Oh, yeah, Tina.
SPEAKER_11You need a grant writer.
SPEAKER_12Let's talk. She's for real. She's like, I'm not unlocking eyes with you, girl. Okay. That's great. Any other questions for Lisa? Yeah. Somebody give her a hug. Somebody give that woman a hug.
SPEAKER_07Yes. I I feel like uh parenting is the most humbling experience of my life. Um, from someone who's built a business and been a professor and done some really hard things, this is the hardest. And the thing I feel like in many ways I have the least control of. Um and and I think for all of us who are trying to instill confidence in our girls, it's let's not uh reinforce them for what they look like, let's reinforce them for who they are and what they do. Let's help them find all of the traits, skills, characteristics, and competencies about themselves that aren't what the world is showing to them. And let's have them develop strong supportive relationships and friendships early so they normalize that and not see girls as a competition with each other. And I think building her network of support while valuing her voice and having her know that her opinions and her voice are important and and we honor what she thinks and what she believes, like those are the things I'm trying to do, and not always well.
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SPEAKER_12That's great. That's great. So just a second, I gotta do an audio text to someone and do something real quick. Okay, we got shit happening around here, guys. I'm the producer, I'm the the the everything, okay? Things are going on. I had to text somebody to give me something. Jackie, Kate, check your text messages. Okay, so Sarah Orlith Pilates, my girl Sarah back here. Sarah, if you guys do not know her, she is doing a private session, a five-class pass, socks. It's basically like a$350 value. Her podcast comes out a little bit later this month, and she's also doing her own little spot on the Carrie Croft show. She's doing So Sarah. It's like a half-hour spot that she's doing for her community on our network. So if anybody's interested in doing that, we're doing that now too. So, Sarah, thank you for your generosity. Where are my girls at Lighthouse? Where are my low-key girls at Lighthouse? Okay. You guys, my minimalist queens over here, they are the best. If you have any sort of like thing in your house that you want to like clean up or whatever, where's Tracy? T Lee hiding in the background. She is the best, and she will take your house and she will tell you what's ugly, and she will tell you what you need to throw away. And I just love them, so I just wanted to give them a shout-out. Last chance for shout-outs, if I forgot. Lauren. Your face was right there. Bumble's backyard, you little sweet thing, you. Anybody who has a dog, please go visit Bumble's Backyard. They have like here and big yard for your dog to do things in, and it's so cute. Her community is so great, and she's fantastic, and she also does stuff at Ohio State for entrepreneurs, and she's on the pod. Go check her out because I love her and her red lipstick. You are great. Anybody else? Did I say donato's again? Should I say donato's pizza again? Because we're we're here now, aren't we? Jordan's like, you better say donato's again. You better say it again. Donato's, donato's, donados. Okay. Last but not least, we have the fabulous. Reagan can't wait. She can't wait to get up here. She cannot wait. Come on, girl, get up here. Just waiting for it to be over so I can eat donados. I mean, donato's?
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SPEAKER_12I love the way they put the toppings all over. They're so generous.
SPEAKER_09So many pepperoni.
SPEAKER_12Do you know they're really 100 pepperonis for pizza? They're really a people company who makes it that make pizza. We know that, right? I want everybody to know about Donato. You're all gonna be Donatos. We're taking you to the next level. We're going global. We're best best partnership you've ever you've ever had, Donatos.
SPEAKER_09I kind of want to yield my eight minutes and talk about all these people. I have so many thoughts on all of them. Well, you I no, yeah, yeah. We go to the studio. Okay, okay, okay to debrief, because all of the there's so many shout-outs. Oh, no, like incredible people.
SPEAKER_12Promise me that you don't leave until you go in the contents.
SPEAKER_09Okay, also, somebody I asked for a vodka in soda. I'm not gonna name names Bridget, but she got me, I think, full vodka. That's what you needed. I don't know if I blame Bridget or Michael. That's what you needed. Yeah, it's amazing. Michael from the fluff. The laundry surface guy.
SPEAKER_12The laundry surface guy that does all the laundry of the ring. I mean, we're just doing it all here.
SPEAKER_09One morning, Nick was out of underpants. Nick is my husband. Don't tell him I forgot my ring. It's not, I feel so bad. Nick's all of his underwear was dirty and our our washing machine wouldn't fucking open. And anyway, by the time we got it open, I had already come up the fluff. I'm like, we gotta expedite all of your mom. What is going on? Michael saved our asses.
Reagan On Brave Before Good
SPEAKER_12Shout out for you. Yeah. Alright, Reagan. I I can't say enough about Reagan Walsh. I mean, the woman is, I just love you. That's all. I just you just have all the things going on. So the book Heart Boss, I, you know how much I loved it. And I want to share this with you guys. I want everybody here, and I'm so excited for everybody to read it who hasn't, but there were so many points, and it was so digestible. But the the theme about brave before good, I use it in my head every day. I talk to myself, I tell other people, you have to be brave before you're good. That was so you crushed that.
SPEAKER_09Well, you have to be brave before you're good. Like remove fake it till you make it from your vocabulary and just be brave. The the window of bravery is brief, and if you don't act when the idea happens or whatever it is, it's gonna close. So you have to be brave before you can be good. Anytime you're doing anything new, you're being brave, right? Because you don't know how it's gonna work out, but the alternative is never moving anywhere, and that blows.
SPEAKER_12Pisses me off.
SPEAKER_09Me too.
SPEAKER_12But you know what I'm gonna say? I think it's probably important to hear this for someone like me who comes off so self-assured, and so like I feel like people might look at me and think, oh, she's just born with like this ability to just to do the thing. And I want you to know that I have so many self-doubts, and I constantly like we all care about our peers, what they think, our families, like things that feel cringe, putting yourself out there. It's a rite of passage to feel those things and move anyway. So, not one person in this world who has started something great hasn't hasn't felt that. I want you to know that, and I just want you to hear, like in your head next time you let that stop. You just take yourself seriously. Like when I train. Lives with any of these people who I'm letting uh hold me back, and really, am I letting I'm doing it, I'm creating the narrative in my head, right? So you have to act anyway, and it does feel really scary, and it feels cringe, and it feels I do it, I feel it all the time. But I'll be damned. If I if I didn't do that, we wouldn't all be sitting here. Can we get a hell yeah for that? This this for me was my like truly, I will share. Like, this was a growth edge for me, and it wasn't about like being so nervous to talk in front of people. Yeah, there's part of that too. It was a lot of things. It was like, you can't do this. Who do you think you are to bring all these amazing people and they're gonna listen and be here and make it all these things? We all feel that way. Don't just just feel it and move anyway. Feel it and move anyway, right? But I love that about your book. I love Shed the Shuds, but you guys can all read that. What we talked about that I love though for you right now is the conversation you had on spring break with a 60-year-old woman that you recently lost both of your parents, and talk about how that has shifted the way you feel like that you walk in the world.
SPEAKER_09Well, it's a two-part story. So, number one, I'm sitting on a couch in Palm Springs with my first boss ever. Her name is Colleen. I have a whole section about Colleen and Heartboss. She's amazing. Read it about her. So Colleen is somebody who's a little timid, and I and I like to make bold moves quickly. And I said to Colleen after Manhattan, I said, you know, I am reckless. And I started telling her all these decisions I've recently made and I'm being reckless and this and that. And I woke up and a few days later we chatted and I said, I'm so disappointed about the language that I used. I am not reckless, I am decisive. And when I know in my gut something is right, I act. So I share that with all of you because if you are somebody that knows what it is that you want, and then you act on it, awesome. You're not reckless, you're decisive, and decisive leaders win. So keep winning and keep deciding and move forward. Part of that stems from my dad died forever ago, 25 years ago. It feels like an eternity, but my mom died. She's very funny. I come from a long line of funny. My mother is wicked funny, so much so that she died on my birthday last July. Um, and hospice was like, no, today's the day. And I was like, Well, my birthday's in 10 days. I assure you, the day is in 10 days.
SPEAKER_12So anyway, when you hold on a second, guys, everybody, I'm cool with everybody chatting. You can like go upstairs and stuff, but it's getting a little loud. So just be quiet.
SPEAKER_09Okay, thank you. So I'm in this phase in my life where both of my parents are dead and I'm like next in line, right? Like, my parents are gone. So now it's me, right? And I have six, I'm the youngest of six, so my oldest sister Anne is truly the matriarch, but it shifted how I make decisions. It shifted whether or not I respond to every email or just delete it. Because I didn't ask for that email and I don't actually want to respond. So while some people might think that's reckless, I just delete. There are somebody, uh, somebody I admire, Meyer asked me if I wanted to get back on a quarterly dinner series. In person, she asked me to my face and I said, no, thank you, but I loved having lunch with you today. I don't want to go back to the quarterly dinners that didn't actually raise my vibrations when I was doing it. So I am being more decisive and I give zero fucks, and I only say yes to what really lights me up and the people that energize me because life is too short. I'm like you, all I want is time with my daughters. They're so cool. I don't want to regret when I'm when I'm on my deathbed and they're talking to hospice about my timing, just like I was doing about my mom. I want them, you know, I want no regrets about the time I invested in them versus having a quarterly dinner, right?
SPEAKER_12It's beyond right. But it's like when you're in it, it's it's something you really have to like step back and get perspective on, right? Because you're like so busy and you're doing the thing and you want to build a thing and it it it it it.
SPEAKER_09And you're a people pleaser, yeah. You want people to like you? Are you a people pleaser? Oh god, that's my toxic trait. Really? Oh I've been recovering for years. I want I will go out of my way. I will jump over 100 hurdles to get you wherever it is you want to go, and I will not jump that hurdle for myself. I spend my energy helping other people remove roadblocks. I mean, this is a life, that's a whole nother story. Yeah, if I also wear business suits to nightclubs. Like, what the heck? No, but that it worked. No, but it totally works. I mean, it like she's not asking me about psychedelic journeys. I want that so badly. I want to be the woman that shows up with edge and not in a business suit.
SPEAKER_12Here's the thing, it works so well. You have the leopard print and it just totally works.
SPEAKER_09That is as bold as I get.
SPEAKER_12Hence why I love Reagan Walsh. I mean, can we get a hell yeah? Todd, do you have any do you have any weird sound bites you can just randomly throw out? Okay, Reagan. One thing you're obsessed with right now in life.
SPEAKER_09Creatine. So lame. I have it every morning. I do too. With Element. And I wonder, is this thing work? I it I don't know. It makes I believe that it's working. I don't know what it's doing, but I'm obsessed with it. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_12Okay. A non-negotiable in your life, which I sounds like like you're trying to create boundaries, but like, what's a non-negotiable?
SPEAKER_09Um, like front porch time with Nick. It's my favorite. I love that.
SPEAKER_12You guys are so romantic.
SPEAKER_09He's a babe.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, you're so cute and romantic.
SPEAKER_09Um, something people would be surprised to know about you. I am terrified of public speaking, and I am a professional keynote speaker.
SPEAKER_12There you go, honey. There you go. Nobody likes to speak in public, I don't think. I'd like to meet someone that's like, yeah, I can't wait to like get up in front of all those people and do the thing. Um what are you protecting your energy from right now?
SPEAKER_09Asshats. I I have no time for asshats. If you're gonna be an asshat and disrespect people or waste my time, or you're not, you're gonna say, like, oh, let me help you do whatever it is you want to do, and then you're actually never gonna do that, like I am over ass hats.
SPEAKER_12Oh my god, no asshat zone. Questions, questions for Reagan Walsh. Anybody, questions for Reagan.
SPEAKER_09Oh. So the backstory of my one of my best friends color coordinated roses for her bridesmaids at her wedding, and she did it according to personality, and she gave me beige roses. And I started chirping about that, and I was like, I can't be beige. Why would you give me beige that's you know, all the things? And then she said, look at you, and I was wearing head to toe beige. So I had nothing. What color would I be? Oh my gosh. Um, I think I would be like the black leather, and I would also, where's the stunning woman with the tattooed face? Oh, who, where is she? She's somewhere. Uh did she? I would have like, I would have 10% of that. Yes. I told you. I would be bold enough to have a tattoo of something. Yeah, and and more leather.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, no, I told I warned everyone. I'm like, if you see Lisa's forage, you immediately think you're gonna get a face tattoo. And it just, it's probably not gonna work out for you, but it's unbelievable. I I would talk about doing it live. Yeah, when she came to the pod the first one, I was like, no, I can do it. I can pull that off, Dane. Yeah. Right here on my forest shirt. I'm like, oh, it's so amazing. It's so amazing. Shed your shits.
SPEAKER_09Brief before good. And it's spelled wrong because I don't know how to spell. Like, that's what would happen. Oh my god, that's why I stick to Baych and Pink.
SPEAKER_12That's amazing. Any other questions for my girl?
SPEAKER_09Yes.
unknownMy question I said is when it's so works like that.
SPEAKER_09Oh my gosh. I my leadership women or leadership circle for executive women starts in September, and recruiting is happening now, Jackie. Thank you.
SPEAKER_12She's that girl. Oh yeah, girl. Oh, yes, Felicia.
unknownDo you know how fucking gorgeous you look in that feet? In that feet.
SPEAKER_09In my business, in my boardroom business suit. That's right. Felicia, I adore you. And this is by the way. This is so stunning.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, Todd, you need to cue that up. And I want to get to know you better. You know that song?
unknownFelicia.
Closing And Meet The Hosts
SPEAKER_12It's Aisha, but we turn it into Felicia. Okay, any other questions for Reagan? Until the wheels are coming off. We can feel it now. People are ready for cocktails, they're ready for some like music. Todd's gonna turn it up. Thank you, Reagan Wall. Thank you so much. You're the best. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, everybody, that concludes the very first in real life experience on the Carrie Crowd show. So I do want to just quickly um thank everybody for being here. And then also just let you know, again, the Pod Studio is live, Peppy for Ebbie's upstairs, grab a cocktail, hello. Hello. Just real quick, then we can all just gamble along. Okay. So listen, I want you guys to all just get into each other's badassery, right? And I want you to go upstairs, have fun. And if you want to talk to me, like I look forward to like just meeting every single one of you in person. If anybody wants to come on the show, if you have a compelling story, just come up and talk to me. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Oh, yes, Annie, yes. Oh god, oh god, here we go.
SPEAKER_11Okay, real quick, because nobody asked me if I wanted to put anything in the fucking gift bag. I thought it is. No.
unknownI'm sorry.
SPEAKER_11Okay, if you bring me something from this gift bag to bite this, whatever so to prove that you were here, I'll give you a free brownie.
SPEAKER_12Thank you guys so much.